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but so has senator mccain and graham. watch this, governor. >> i believe that suddam hussein presents clear and present danger to acquire weapons of mass destruction and there's very little doubt that he would use them. we're going to find weapons of mass destruction and we're going to find incredible brew tal teas that this dictator has inflicted on the iraqi people. >> he has weapons of mass destruction. he is lying when he says he doesn't. >> now, this led up to the iraq war. both of them saying there were weapons of mass destruction that wasn't there. these are the people that are now trying to say that susan rice gave bad information when she gave information that she was given by intelligence. >> you know, reverend, i held the job susan did, as you mentioned. and we would get, whenever we would go on a news show, an intelligence briefing or piece of paper that gave you the guidance that you had on an event overseas. susan was following that guidance and she did it very well. she did it on news shows. and to suggest
but so has senator mccain and graham. watch this, governor. >> i believe that suddam hussein presents clear and present danger to acquire weapons of mass destruction and there's very little doubt that he would use them. we're going to find weapons of mass destruction and we're going to find incredible brew tal teas that this dictator has inflicted on the iraqi people. >> he has weapons of mass destruction. he is lying when he says he doesn't. >> now, this led up to the iraq...
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. >> no, but john mccain still had his senate seat. mitt romney didn't carry massachusetts, california, or his home state and there's no such thing as a romney republic anymore. he doesn't have any power. so he's coming today obama looked good because he's sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship that he's trying to create throughout all of this gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i have to tell you, i watch this stuff from 7:00 until midnight. i'm constantly trying to figure this thing out. i thought it was much more pro-obama. he won a very solid victory and mandate. are they still stunned by that? >> yeah. in some respects, they are, to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high. >> stu stevens thinks that. we're all trying to figure that out. what happened here? >> i think there is a bit of that. and rahm himself, the data guy, going through the numbers trying to figure out what happened himself. i think he will be doing that for a while. i think he still thinks about this an awful lo
. >> no, but john mccain still had his senate seat. mitt romney didn't carry massachusetts, california, or his home state and there's no such thing as a romney republic anymore. he doesn't have any power. so he's coming today obama looked good because he's sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship that he's trying to create throughout all of this gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i have to tell you, i watch this stuff from 7:00 until midnight. i'm...
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which is different than, you know, i think the president did have a certain level of respect for mccain. i will say your intro, jonathan, about costco, i was thinking i love the joe biden image at costco. if the two guys, mitt romney and the president, were like wandering through costco together, getting samples, that would be a beautiful image. >> that's not weird, but sitting down at lunch is weird? >> one thing i feel like they might actually have in common, i feel like they both might like costco. we'll have to speculate on that. the thing is for me, not only is there no substance here, but even the symbolism of it, what does it really matter? nobody -- mitt romney doesn't have a constituency left. most republicans are like, please go away and stop talking right now. you know, the people who voted for him by and large, they weren't mitt romney voters. they were republican voters. they were anti-obama voters. but they didn't come out because they loved mitt romney. now he needs to unite them behind the president. i actually think a more substantive and more important meeting would be
which is different than, you know, i think the president did have a certain level of respect for mccain. i will say your intro, jonathan, about costco, i was thinking i love the joe biden image at costco. if the two guys, mitt romney and the president, were like wandering through costco together, getting samples, that would be a beautiful image. >> that's not weird, but sitting down at lunch is weird? >> one thing i feel like they might actually have in common, i feel like they both...
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john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is expected to released within the next 72 hours. >>> coming up, president obama may be meeting with governor romney today but also hosting other special and possibly much, much smarter guests at the white house. we'll reveal the vips next. have a good night. here you go. you, too. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the
john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is...
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in 2008, john mccain and president obama had a similar lunch and you see how that took us. been perhaps the sharpest critic of barack obama since then. so i don't see them as emerging as very close friends. the second point -- >> in modern times, mitt has not returned to washington for a job. so mitt romney went home whereas other presidential losers have gone back to d.c. to go back to work like a mccain. >> i agree, but it doesn't necessarily mean -- i'm not sure the lunch will help the relationship. it seems to have been worse after the election than before in some ways. the other thing is it would be useful for obama if mitt romney had any pull with actual rops. it's not clear to me if mitt romney endorsed the fiscal cliff deal whether that would make any difference with a sorry. republicans don't really care what mitt romney thinks at this point. so i'm not sure if he has any pull that will make a difference after this meeting even if he and barack obama do become allies. >> do you have expectations? >> it may be a case of keep your trends close and your enemies closer
in 2008, john mccain and president obama had a similar lunch and you see how that took us. been perhaps the sharpest critic of barack obama since then. so i don't see them as emerging as very close friends. the second point -- >> in modern times, mitt has not returned to washington for a job. so mitt romney went home whereas other presidential losers have gone back to d.c. to go back to work like a mccain. >> i agree, but it doesn't necessarily mean -- i'm not sure the lunch will...
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remember the president hosted a 2009 dinner in john mccain's honor. though that didn't stop mccain from becoming a fierce critic, it was the right thing to do. it's a little different because romney is the first losing nominee since michael due kas cac kiss in 1988 who has not gone back to washington for a job even temporarily which forced the logistics to be more intentional. they eat meat one-on-one at the private dining room at the bhous, no cameras, no staff. the president's spokesman yesterday was very careful to manage expectations. >> is governor romney here tomorrow in some kind of cabinet level position, some kind of audition for that position? >> no, no. >> romney will also meet with his running mate congressman paul ryan for the first time since the election. if cameras catch it, it's likely it might happen somewhere on capitol hill. we've been told it will be held in a private place, not in the u.s. capitol, not in one of the buildings. cameras did capture governor romney going to disney. he'll have office space at solo mere, the firm co-f
remember the president hosted a 2009 dinner in john mccain's honor. though that didn't stop mccain from becoming a fierce critic, it was the right thing to do. it's a little different because romney is the first losing nominee since michael due kas cac kiss in 1988 who has not gone back to washington for a job even temporarily which forced the logistics to be more intentional. they eat meat one-on-one at the private dining room at the bhous, no cameras, no staff. the president's spokesman...
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later, jon stewart takes aim at senator mccain over the susan rice controversy. that clip and a check on weather when "way too early" comes right back. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. you know it can be hard to lbreathe, and how that feels.e, copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even e
later, jon stewart takes aim at senator mccain over the susan rice controversy. that clip and a check on weather when "way too early" comes right back. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an...
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john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain went on fox news to try to continue to advance his theory of a massive white house cover-up of the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. senator mccain has been advancing this cover-up theory demanding answers. he appears to be tuning out those answers when they are provided to him. it is getting weirder and weirder over time. here, watch. >> who changed the talking points that were used by ambassador rice? that is a question senator mccain that we have the answer to. the intelligence agencies acknowledged last week that they were the ones
john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain...
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this is part of the demise of john mccain. then, you have lindsey graham using this in his upcoming race for re-election. it is pretty disgusting stuff. >> it is the politics of personal destruction, no question about it. it is also distortion politics. not a whole lot of positive things for the republicans. they are really on the defensive. they are looking for something negative to put on the president. the president has twice supported susan rice. secretary clinton did that today. you can't get any more aggressive than that. >> some recent polling shows that where as americans don't like the way benghazi was handled, they don't think they were intentionally trying to mislead the people. they are trying to say the president did want us to know how bad the threat from al qaeda was. the decision was made to modify those talking points because we didn't want the enemy to know what was going on, not because there was an attempt to mislead the american people. >> there is a report out that ambassador susan rice has a major financ
this is part of the demise of john mccain. then, you have lindsey graham using this in his upcoming race for re-election. it is pretty disgusting stuff. >> it is the politics of personal destruction, no question about it. it is also distortion politics. not a whole lot of positive things for the republicans. they are really on the defensive. they are looking for something negative to put on the president. the president has twice supported susan rice. secretary clinton did that today. you...
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ignoring john mccain and his ail argue evidence it was an organized act of terrorism. not so says the president. his u.n. ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to understand the security failure in benghazi. what the administration to
ignoring john mccain and his ail argue evidence it was an organized act of terrorism. not so says the president. his u.n. ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the...
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it's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and ought to be taken for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john kerry, so if they then reopen a massachusetts senate seat r for scott brown. is that your sense of the game that's being played? >> i have no idea. you are much more mcvavalian thinking than 1 am. >>> coming up, we'll find out about ari melber and guess who's coming to dinner? mitt romney's last chance to get into the white house is coming up. [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esuranc
it's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and ought to be taken for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john...
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but just four seconds after susan rice appeared on one of these sunday morning shows, john mccain appeared on the same show. was he being political? >> well, benghazi was a tragedy, loss of human life. and while that tragedy was unfolding, the republicans making political statements that were totally inappropriate. susan rice was given a responsibility, she responded to information that she had. i think the facts of benghazi speak for themselves. i think susan rice's role is well known, that she was out there with information that had been provided to her and that to hold her accountable for the aftermath when the facts became known, i think it's just wrong and the republicans from day one were wrong on this and it's a situation where americans should come together. on foreign policy issues, we shouldn't be playing politics. >> let me ask you, senator, if we can, let's go to the bottom line. can they block her? can she be can confirmed? >> the confirmation process is a very serious process t involves hearings and she should be judged on her record and what comes out at the hearings. i thin
but just four seconds after susan rice appeared on one of these sunday morning shows, john mccain appeared on the same show. was he being political? >> well, benghazi was a tragedy, loss of human life. and while that tragedy was unfolding, the republicans making political statements that were totally inappropriate. susan rice was given a responsibility, she responded to information that she had. i think the facts of benghazi speak for themselves. i think susan rice's role is well known,...
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and as much as daryl issa and john mccain have been trying to get answers from the fbi and the cia and the intelligence committee and all of those other things, we have to go through susan rice. before we can work on preventing this from happening again, we have to agree on what exactly happened. and we don't fully know and we need to find out. >> i appreciate a lot of your position. if this was really about consulate security and what happened that day for a lot of these people, i would find that extremely valid. these are important questions. nobody wants this to happen again. it is completely a tragedy. but what we have is talking point police attacking susan rice because of what she said on the shows. look. they -- all these senators know the intelligence that she got. they know she was briefed by the intelligence community to say this. they know there's no duplicity. she was told what to say and whatnot to say. there's this bizarre kabuki theaters a foekt this. if it's above politics, it's attacking obama and the intelligence community. susan rice is not the doorway in to that. ob
and as much as daryl issa and john mccain have been trying to get answers from the fbi and the cia and the intelligence committee and all of those other things, we have to go through susan rice. before we can work on preventing this from happening again, we have to agree on what exactly happened. and we don't fully know and we need to find out. >> i appreciate a lot of your position. if this was really about consulate security and what happened that day for a lot of these people, i would...
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i get it with senator mccain, a senator at the time. mitt romney doesn't hold a position and many turned against him. >> well, here's what i think this is about. the president believes in his heart and i can tell you this i think as a long-time supporter of his i believe this firmly. the president wants to get a deal done. he really does. he does not want to send the country over the fiscal cliff. >> he needs mitt romney to do that? >> he needs republicans to cooperate with him, yes. and i think if mitt romney were to come forward and say, we need a deal, we shouldn't go over the cliff, should be give and take on both sides, that would have tremendous impact because, you know, close to 50% of the country voted for guy. he does represent a large swath of the american population that voted for him and he can come forward and say, let's put politics aside. rise above as my friends at cnbc say and get a deal done. >> erin, i think there are a lot of people that just gasped listening to david because the other side of that -- i'm going to be
i get it with senator mccain, a senator at the time. mitt romney doesn't hold a position and many turned against him. >> well, here's what i think this is about. the president believes in his heart and i can tell you this i think as a long-time supporter of his i believe this firmly. the president wants to get a deal done. he really does. he does not want to send the country over the fiscal cliff. >> he needs mitt romney to do that? >> he needs republicans to cooperate with...
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john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >> or could be a $50,000 cap or something even higher than that. now chris cizilla, let's talk about the lack of civility or the contentiousness of this susan rice situation where she's back on the hill today. let me play a little bit of susan collins, republican from maine, known as a moderate, discussing the possibility of a john kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raise
john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >>...
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the republicans should move on to other serious questions. >> well, especially if -- yes, yesterday, mccain and ayotte and graham were saying we want to know why the u.s. military was unable to respond within search hours, our consulate was left so insecure. these are not questions susan rice has the answer to. luke, i want to ask about the interpersonal dynamics. susan rice is tough and as the governor said during the break she does not suffer fools badly. these were make nice meetings that didn't seem to go so well, correct? kelly ayotte known as a particular fire brand but came out with very, very strong language and said she would put a hold on susan rice's nomination. >> look, two things were surprising here. number one, a visit like this when you're actually not the nominee to be secretary of state, is a little odd. we were talking with other reporters earlier and no one can really remember these types of diplomatic visits for someone not officially nominated. after the criticism of rice softened this past weekend a lot of us expected this would be a get nice pow wow. it turned out to
the republicans should move on to other serious questions. >> well, especially if -- yes, yesterday, mccain and ayotte and graham were saying we want to know why the u.s. military was unable to respond within search hours, our consulate was left so insecure. these are not questions susan rice has the answer to. luke, i want to ask about the interpersonal dynamics. susan rice is tough and as the governor said during the break she does not suffer fools badly. these were make nice meetings...
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but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called her up there. >> no question about that. she's pushing these meetings, the one asking for these meetings. like i said, if this is auditioning to be our top diplomat, what that's what these meetings are about -- >> sometimes you go into meetings in diplomacy and you do come out aggressively because some foreign countries aren't our allies and aren't going to be. >> no question. >> as far as she can tell, john mccain doesn't seem like an alloy so it was a tough meeting. that's fine. >> joy-ann, last word. >> john mccain is driven by his resentments and his piques. the idea when he was beaten
but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called...
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john mccain made it clear on fox yesterday that if the president appoints senator john kerry, the road to confirmation will look quite a bit different. >> john kerry came within a whisker of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor. i don't have anything in his ba background like this tragedy in benghazi that would make me r l really want to carefully examine the whole situation. >> now one problem for mccain and graham as they prepare to wage this fight with the white house, they lost their third amigo, gave them bipartisan credibility. joe lieberman acted yesterday as a character witness for susan rice, telling reporters on the hill that he supports her. >> i would not feel that her appearances and anything she said on those sunday morning talk shows september 16 would disqua disqualify her for appointment to any other office. >> rice defended herself in a statement following her meetings writing, quote, while we certainly wish we had had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack as is often the case the intelligence assessment has evolved.
john mccain made it clear on fox yesterday that if the president appoints senator john kerry, the road to confirmation will look quite a bit different. >> john kerry came within a whisker of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor. i don't have anything in his ba background like this tragedy in benghazi that would make me r l really want to carefully examine the whole situation. >> now one problem for mccain and graham as they prepare to wage this fight...
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john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and i want to say -- >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassador rice said today, absolutely it was wrong. >> drunk driving
john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video....
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there was no committee of lindsey graham and john mccain. they don't run anything there. is it unusual to have the leader of the cia personally involved like this? >> it was remarkable to me. i described her on "nightly news" as her wing man. he was there to take the blame. and it did seem for an acting director of the cia to be put in that position rather extraordinary. he himself is under consideration to become the permanent cia director. there's a lot of cabinet shuffling that may take place. interesting people are talking about defense secretary as though the job was open. leon panetta might want to stay longer. and john kerry has not said he would be interested in that job. some said he would take it, but others closer to him say that's not the case. and no job has been offered. so this is -- let's just put it awkward. if she is nominated and they it fight this through, who is going to chair that committee? and that's john kerry. >> it's not quite krem linology because it's america, but it's getting closer. andrea mitchell, thank you so much. great to have you here.
there was no committee of lindsey graham and john mccain. they don't run anything there. is it unusual to have the leader of the cia personally involved like this? >> it was remarkable to me. i described her on "nightly news" as her wing man. he was there to take the blame. and it did seem for an acting director of the cia to be put in that position rather extraordinary. he himself is under consideration to become the permanent cia director. there's a lot of cabinet shuffling...
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it was john mccain. and that's one of the ironies that's lost in all this. >> because gadhafi was our help -- >> he was helpful against al qaeda. absolutely. >> this is really black spy, white spy. this is crazy stuff. thank you. michael o'hanlon and jonathan landay. >>> elections have consequences, i say it all the time. and the democrats are feeling emboldened. they want to see taxes go up on the rich. they want to protect programs like medicare and medicaid. will they give president obama room to negotiate some kind of deal that gets through this hell coming january 1st. they say they won, the other side lost, they're going to fight. >>> plus democrats are moving to end the so-called silent filibuster which republicans have used to quietly say if you don't have 60 votes, you ain't going nowhere. this is the big question, if they're successful, it's possible, it's possible the democrats will be able to get some things done. we'll talk about that in a minute. they're going to be just like jimmy stewart
it was john mccain. and that's one of the ironies that's lost in all this. >> because gadhafi was our help -- >> he was helpful against al qaeda. absolutely. >> this is really black spy, white spy. this is crazy stuff. thank you. michael o'hanlon and jonathan landay. >>> elections have consequences, i say it all the time. and the democrats are feeling emboldened. they want to see taxes go up on the rich. they want to protect programs like medicare and medicaid. will...
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>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for the incomplete and in some cases wrong story she gave on five different shows that sunday, i don't think that behind closed doors the republican senators were going after her personally. they came out afterwards and made it sound like the grave matter it was involving her. i don't think that's where they're at behind closed doors. >> let's listen to president obama on november 14th. about the senator's attacks on ambassador rice. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target? then they've got a problem with me. and should i choose, if i think that she wou
>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for...
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tonight's lead, the mccain gang wants what it wants. today u.n. ambassador susan rice went to capitol hill to meet with the three republican senators who have been her harshest critics over what she said on sunday talk shows about the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. it was a meeting ambassador rice requested to try and clear the air. she went to the meetings with the acting cia director. but the republican senators were not swayed, not in the least. in fact, it sounded like they had settled on their talking points. here's what they said after the meeting. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed more than i was before. here's what i can tell you. the american people got bad information on 16 september, they got bad information from president obama days after. it was unjustified. to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama three wee
tonight's lead, the mccain gang wants what it wants. today u.n. ambassador susan rice went to capitol hill to meet with the three republican senators who have been her harshest critics over what she said on sunday talk shows about the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. it was a meeting ambassador rice requested to try and clear the air. she went to the meetings with the acting cia director. but the republican senators were not swayed, not in the least. in fact, it sounded like...
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they and john mccain tell reporters their questions about benghazi have gone unanswered. they say ambassador rice didn't answer them in their meeting with her this morning. and apparently neither did david petraeus in his closed door testimony more than a week ago. nor other administration officials in their testimony a week prior to that. mind you, senator mccain and others skipped that because it was in conflict with their benghazi media schedule. regardless, they have now had the opportunity to meet practically every major actor in this ginned up controversy, but it doesn't matter because this is all they had to say just a short time ago. >> significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified. >> joining us now is goldie taylor, an msnbc contributor and author, and dana mill barbankmi columni isist for "the washingt post." who else do republicans need to hear from because we're running out of names or are they exp
they and john mccain tell reporters their questions about benghazi have gone unanswered. they say ambassador rice didn't answer them in their meeting with her this morning. and apparently neither did david petraeus in his closed door testimony more than a week ago. nor other administration officials in their testimony a week prior to that. mind you, senator mccain and others skipped that because it was in conflict with their benghazi media schedule. regardless, they have now had the opportunity...
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everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some people wonder if there's a little bit of political opportunism there. >> i want to go back to something krystal said a minute ago. closing ranks behind susan rice because much political battle lines in this. you made the point earlier if you just looked at this without regard to benghazi and said john mccain realistically speaking, who potentially could appoint secretary of state that would agree ideological with you. realistically susan rice is as good as he can do. the consensus in the democratic party is probably to the right of it. i wonder is there any push-back from the left or from democrats in washington toward the administration just saying, hey, look, don't fall for this trap of nominating susan rice because you have to? get somebody that agrees more? >> susan rice is very well respected, and i know a lot of progressives wanted her to be a spokesperson because they thought she was effective. susan rice is known as the conscience of the administration when it comes to
everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some people wonder if there's a little bit of political opportunism there. >> i want to go back to something krystal said a minute ago. closing ranks behind susan rice because much political battle lines in this. you made the point earlier if you just looked at this without regard to benghazi and said john mccain realistically speaking, who potentially could appoint secretary of state that would agree ideological with you. realistically...
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john mccain was on tape questioning whether she was qualified. there's one, a powerful senator. >> he thought she was qualified before. i'm not sure what's changed. here's the problem with the entire debate. everyone is focuses, at least these three senators focus on susan rice. none focus on their former colleague, which is former senator hillary clinton. she's the secretary of state. she's the sitting secretary of state. she's leaving. guess what? the embassy security was directly under her purview and staff's purview. i'm not suggesting she did anything wrong. i'm suggesting they're barking up the wrong tree. the problem with these three senators, kelly ayotte, lindsey graham and john mccain, is they're barking up the wrong tree here. >> what is the tree that's appropriate if we continue with that metaphor? >> the sitting secretary of state. if they're concerned about what happened in benghazi with our security, with our ambassador and the three other people that were killed, they ought to ask the sitting secretary of state to come to the cong
john mccain was on tape questioning whether she was qualified. there's one, a powerful senator. >> he thought she was qualified before. i'm not sure what's changed. here's the problem with the entire debate. everyone is focuses, at least these three senators focus on susan rice. none focus on their former colleague, which is former senator hillary clinton. she's the secretary of state. she's the sitting secretary of state. she's leaving. guess what? the embassy security was directly under...
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senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't know anything about this, i'm going on every single show. >> joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor managing editor of post politics.com and our own nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. well, this was pretty tense. chris, first to you. you've seen a lot of confirmation battles. this really did seem like an escalation, a warning shot. >> maybe they come out of this and say, look, we still kind of disagree with the way this played out but the explanations that ambassador rice gave us helped us understand. instead, what we got coming out of it was, as you point out, i think, an u
senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't...
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and he pushed very hard for that kennedy mccain bill which didn't pass. so, you know, there is a change, semantics and then actions maybe they can get 44% of the vote next time around. >> one thing is for sure, it is a very grand elle fante, 3,000 pounds, 8,000 pounds. >> correct amente. >> you can catch jose diaz-balart every night at 6:30 p.m. eastern on our sister network telemundo. thank you as always. thank you to my friends here in new york, david, benjamin, joy and richard. i will see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by the governor of "now," former governor ed rendell, maggie haberman and eric baits, my interview with senator patty murray. check out photos of us playing with our new office toys on facebook.com/now with alex. "andrea mitchell reports" is coming up next. humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else
and he pushed very hard for that kennedy mccain bill which didn't pass. so, you know, there is a change, semantics and then actions maybe they can get 44% of the vote next time around. >> one thing is for sure, it is a very grand elle fante, 3,000 pounds, 8,000 pounds. >> correct amente. >> you can catch jose diaz-balart every night at 6:30 p.m. eastern on our sister network telemundo. thank you as always. thank you to my friends here in new york, david, benjamin, joy and...
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judging by the initial reaction from john mccain,
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she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> a state senator from idaho is now getting behind a plan that's been circulating on tea party blogs. calling for states that supported mitt romney to refuse to participate in the electoral college. a move they believe would change the results of the election. it's the kind of radical talk that turned off a lot of voters in the last election, but the wall street journal reports, they are regrouping, searching for candidates who can win in 2014. i'm joined by amy cramer who is chair of th
she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for...
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i want to play something john mccain said on the issue of abortion. i'll ask you about it on the way out. >> i don't think anybody like me -- i can state my position on abortion, but to do other than that, leave the issue alone. i would allow people to have those opinions and respect those opinions. i'm proud of my pro-life position and record. but if someone disagrees with me, i -- >> is the republican tent big enough to have pro-choice republicans? >> well, sure. but it's still a pro-life country. you saw the gallup poll. >> the standard-bearer of polling these days. there was a virginia exit poll, 2-1 margin people called themselves pro-choice. you have the high profile ultrasound bill. i know you weren't supportive of it but there was criticism that your party didn't get rid that have bill soon enough. >> chuck, if we capitulate, we are a pro-life party. that's pretty obvious. but this election is decided on economic issues, spending and debt and on other issues. i'm very pro-life. everybody knew that when i ran and i won by 18 points. they embrac
i want to play something john mccain said on the issue of abortion. i'll ask you about it on the way out. >> i don't think anybody like me -- i can state my position on abortion, but to do other than that, leave the issue alone. i would allow people to have those opinions and respect those opinions. i'm proud of my pro-life position and record. but if someone disagrees with me, i -- >> is the republican tent big enough to have pro-choice republicans? >> well, sure. but it's...
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they're going to talk to her and senator mccain will be gracious to her. and, again, all the questions that are being asked about benghazi that are reasonable, rational questions that most americans have unless they're extreme left wingers on twitter -- or joe klein, those are logical questions that need to be asked. i love you, joe, but i'm not sure yesterday what you were on -- >> i know what he was on, the truth. >> what the hell ever. listen, there are legitimate questions to be asked -- >> there are. >> even though -- >> there are some dumb ones too. >> even though left wing partisans don't want those questions to be asked. however, richard, there are a lot of questions to be asked about benghazi that john mccain and lindsey graham asked all the wrong ones and went after the wrong person. this was not susan rice's problem. >> she was a spokesperson for the administration. she is up to be potentially secretary of state. she's not up to be mayor in bengha benghazi. they should have her up there, but ultimately they should ask her about trade policy and
they're going to talk to her and senator mccain will be gracious to her. and, again, all the questions that are being asked about benghazi that are reasonable, rational questions that most americans have unless they're extreme left wingers on twitter -- or joe klein, those are logical questions that need to be asked. i love you, joe, but i'm not sure yesterday what you were on -- >> i know what he was on, the truth. >> what the hell ever. listen, there are legitimate questions to be...
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will senator mccain and the republicans blink first? we'll discuss that with the president on the council on foreign relations, richard houshous haass. >>> a lead actor tells fans to stop watching the show, that it's filthy. louis helps us break down the controversy when "way too early" comes back. speaking of filthy, don't even want to start. >> let's not start. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi
will senator mccain and the republicans blink first? we'll discuss that with the president on the council on foreign relations, richard houshous haass. >>> a lead actor tells fans to stop watching the show, that it's filthy. louis helps us break down the controversy when "way too early" comes back. speaking of filthy, don't even want to start. >> let's not start. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've bought ragu for...
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john mccain himself has actually done on those issues. on abortion rights and women's health, here's how john mccain has personally models this behavior that he describes for these issues. the folks keep track of these things. on how he's left the abortion issue alone. dozens of times continually voting not to leave abortion at all, but to take them away from american women entirely. as a matter of policy. that's how he's left that issue alone. he also said sunday in that same breath that the republican party needs to work on comprehensive immigration reform, obviously. here's how john mccain led on the issue of immigration reform when he had the chance to be a party leader on that subject. here's his determined leadership on that issue back in 2008 when he had the chance to lead on it. >> your original immigration proposal in 2006 was much broader and included a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants who were already here. what i'm wondering, and you seem to be down playing that part. at this point, if your original proposal came
john mccain himself has actually done on those issues. on abortion rights and women's health, here's how john mccain has personally models this behavior that he describes for these issues. the folks keep track of these things. on how he's left the abortion issue alone. dozens of times continually voting not to leave abortion at all, but to take them away from american women entirely. as a matter of policy. that's how he's left that issue alone. he also said sunday in that same breath that the...
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he was going to say, i, john mccain, have the moral authority, i john mccain, have the credibility to block susan rice if i want her to be blocked, and by god i'm going to do it. then yesterday, he switched gears. he back pedalled at warp speed. >> is this just another briefing for three senators that have taken issue with her performance? >> i think it's a savvy political move by rice to say that -- to understand that, you know, she does have to answer mccain's concerns because he still is, to some people, not to me, but to some people, he's still john mccain with a lot of authority. so he has to go see him. but i think she's going to come out of this meeting looking fine. i think mccain is going to have a press conference where he's going to say she answered his questions to his satisfaction and i think he's going to send the signal tomorrow afternoon that she's okay. >> maybe they will compare academic records. you write that mccain should have zero credibility on susan rice and benghazi. why does the washington establishment always seem to turn to mccain for, let's see what the go
he was going to say, i, john mccain, have the moral authority, i john mccain, have the credibility to block susan rice if i want her to be blocked, and by god i'm going to do it. then yesterday, he switched gears. he back pedalled at warp speed. >> is this just another briefing for three senators that have taken issue with her performance? >> i think it's a savvy political move by rice to say that -- to understand that, you know, she does have to answer mccain's concerns because he...
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john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the demographics are not on our side and we are going to have to give a much more positive agenda. and as far as young women are concerned, absolutely. i don't think anybody like me, i can state my position on borgs, but other than that, leave the issue alone. >> you say leave the issue alone. you'd say freedom of choice is this. >> i would allow people to have those opinions and respect those positions. i'm proud of my pro-life opinion and record, but i respect your views. >> as republicans continue to access their second loss of the presidency in a row, they keep grasping at all kinds of straws instead of admitting they were up against a superior candidate in barack
john mccain could not admit that barack obama beat him, then mitt romney because president obama is a better candidate than they were and president obama is a better and wiser man of government than they could ever be. they say they need to sound -- and less crazy on women's issues, then they could win the electoral college in a landslide. >> obviously, we have to do immigration reform. there is no doubt whatsoever that the demographics are not on our side and we are going to have to give...